What do you wish women would know?

topic posted Thu, September 17, 2009 - 3:27 PM by  Aschleigh
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And if you say a blowjob is going to save your marriage than I will not be betting on your marriage being saved.

One thing I am noticing is that women are some times hard to talk to ( men are too) some people are highly reactice and don't have the skills to stay calm long enough to hear things.
I bet I would learn a lot about women if I were to try to date them.
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Aschleigh
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  • Re: What do you wish women would know?

    Thu, September 17, 2009 - 8:52 PM

    "I bet I would learn a lot about women if I were to try to date them." Indeed! Thanks for a true, laugh-out-loud moment. I learned a lot from explicitly NOT trying to date them or be sexual in any way whatsoever.

    One of the things I wish that women knew earlier was how isolating it is to be raised male in this culture. Although it seems to be less so with each passing decade, I basically wasn't touched except for fucking and fighting from the age of six into my late thirties, and this created a lot of unnecessary isolation.

    It would have also been nice if the women in my life had understood earlier how much rage there is in the male experience, and how normalized the sensitivity to violence is for many men. Men often swim in a sea of violence, and knowing how to maneuver that in a humane and just way is more complicated than it might seem from the outside. If you think fear of being killed can harsh your buzz, spend a few years afraid that you'll kill the wrong person.

    Lastly, I think it would help for younger women (especially) and younger men to appreciate how little men are educated in even basic emotional literacy, and how much a little bit of knowledge there can help masculine health and support among men. Even being able to identify four basic feelings (mad, sad, glad and afraid) at a basic physical level and verbalize that is difficult for traditionally-socialized men. One of the first books I read on male psychology was Herb Goldberg's "The Hazards of Being Male," wherein he noted that 'asking a man to feel is rather like telling a cripple to walk.' It takes a bit of time to pick up what most women perceive as a basic human skill, but many men are never taught.

    That and that the sexiest word in the language is "yes," spoken with the eyes and feeling.
    • Re: What do you wish women would know?

      Fri, September 18, 2009 - 2:33 AM
      I wish women knew, and understood, that we can accept "no" as an answer, that we prefer "no"over noncomittal answers, mixed messages, and the like. When we enquire as to whether you're interested in us, or about the status of our relationship, etc, the simple truth suffices more than any halfhearted attempt to avoid hurting our feelings.
      • Re: What do you wish women would know?

        Fri, September 18, 2009 - 9:29 AM
        Thanks Guys.
        Mac that's really interesting about asking men to feel is like asking a cripple to walk. I think things are changing and some of that is the pressure from women to change. I certainly notice how amazing and refreshing it is to have a great talk about feelings with a man. I have a couple men in my life that can do that. I as a women have also felt very isolated in the adult world. Moving to LA was very lonely for a long time. I think that's a lot of motiviation for sex , just to be touched. I also see that with my neice ( 10) and my nephew ( 14) . I am physcially affectionate with them but with my neice it's easier, it feels more allowed to be physcial with her. We cuddle a lot, in a way I don't think I would cuddle with my nephew anymore. I miss that he was very cuddly for a long time, now he's a teenager.
        I do see that men are vulnerable in a way that women are not. Women express, vent our feelings , we get rid of some of that energy ( some of us). Of course because I'm me and I'm becoming a therapist ;male psychology and male experience interests me. I want to be able to support men in being able to express there feelings and being less violent and getting your sexual-emotional needs satisfied. That's why I ask these questions.
        • Re: What do you wish women would know?

          Fri, September 18, 2009 - 9:51 AM
          It would have also been nice if the women in my life had understood earlier how much rage there is in the male experience,

          I think that this is understood by both genders but unconsciously often. It takes a while for me to be sleeping next to someone or out and about with them to notice that underneath their irratation is actual rage ( this happens with women too) . I tend to move away from these people ( I grew up with a rageful mother and I can't be around it ever again) . I notice it because I had that experience of being near my mom, but some people don't notice it or just accept it or actually like it. As in wanting a guy who can "stand up" for them, who are violent or percieved as protective. It's ridiculous to me but a lot of women got for that.
          Mac, if you even know that about yourself, the rage of your experience you are light years ahead of many human beings on earth.
          Think of what that rage does in the world, from Domestic violence to war to greedy financial actions.
        • Re: What do you wish women would know?

          Fri, September 18, 2009 - 9:54 AM
          It would have also been nice if the women in my life had understood earlier how much rage there is in the male experience,

          I think that this is understood by both genders but unconsciously often. It takes a while for me to be sleeping next to someone or out and about with them to notice that underneath their irratation is actual rage ( this happens with women too) . I tend to move away from these people ( I grew up with a rageful mother and I can't be around it ever again) . I notice it because I had that experience of being near my mom, but some people don't notice it or just accept it or actually like it. As in wanting a guy who can "stand up" for them, who are violent or percieved as protective. It's ridiculous to me but a lot of women got for that.
          Mac, if you even know that about yourself, the rage of your experience you are light years ahead of many human beings on earth.
          Think of what that rage does in the world, from Domestic violence to war to greedy financial actions.

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